Even this is too crazy for me, and I’m ready to peace out.’ And that’s jarring to him because he feels like she’s the only person he can trust right now, and if she’s going to turn her back on him, where else can he turn? That’s a scary place to be.Ībsolutely. But she’s getting to a point, as we see in the episode, where she’s like, ‘OK, look. I think he’s always had deeper connections with people who are outsiders, in a sense. She may not understand what’s up on that board, he feels like he can trust her. It’s nice that they’ve formed a friendship, but it’s certainly tested with her coming over and looking at this whole rat’s nest on the bulletin board thinking that he’s spinning out of control. And I think Eugene recognized that in her. They’re people who have mostly lived their lives on the fringe of society. I like that you called them oddballs, because yeah, I just look at them as outsiders. I love their relationship because they’re both kind of the oddballs of the group, but what do you think draws these two characters together? And will Princess forgive Eugene for all of this trouble that he put her in? Now, Eugene’s friendship with Princess ( Paola Lázaro) is tested quite a bit in this episode too. So I was happy that I got like a whole episode to myself because I’m a selfish guy, and I just want him all to me. I didn’t get a chance to mix it up and work with him. He’s directed a few episodes of our show, and I was in a couple of them, but I was only in a scene or two, where I was maybe in the background or something. He just brings a lot of expertise, a lot of experience that I think would’ve been missing, at least from my performance, and the episode, for sure, had he not been there. How was it working with Michael Cudlitz again? He was there at the start of Eugene’s story as Abraham, so this was a bit full-circle for you two. I don’t know that it would play well if it wasn’t played in the shadows and in the dark, so I think they did a great job in coming up with that idea. But I think that this whole story lends itself to that. It’s a full-on whodunit, and it is True Detective - he’s trying to team up with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson. I like to see how The Walking Dead plays with different genres, and this is a unique episode in that sense. David Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick wrote a fantastic episode. I’m a big fan of noir, and this had a nice noir-ish feeling to it, something Michael Cudlitz, who directed the episode, and I talked a lot about. How was it to get to do this major genre slant for this episode? But first, we had Eugene Porter: True Detective. I can see how that can help with the journey, especially considering where Eugene winds up at the end of this episode. Sometimes I like to not have that kind of information though, so that I’m actually surprised by it and we can show that as opposed to having to play against it. You know, they map out what’s going to happen and I knew the journey that he was going on and I knew that it ultimately would come to a head during this episode, “Rogue Element.” And I knew all along that Chelle Ramos, was not the person I was talking to on the radio, obviously. Josh McDermitt: I don’t think I knew about the “fake Stephanie” until we started shooting at the beginning of this season. So, what does this all mean exactly? We spoke to McDermitt below to figure out what’s coming for his heartbroken guy.įans had the theory of a “fake Stephanie” for a while, but at what point did you know that was the direction you were headed in the show? But there is one big twist at the end of the episode that gives us some hope - Max ( Margot Bingham, who was initially cast as the voice of Stephanie in July 2020) reveals herself to Eugene in the final minutes as the woman he was speaking to over the radio. In the March 6 episode of AMC’s The Walking Dead, Eugene Porter ( Josh McDermitt) finally learns the truth about his girlfriend Stephanie ( Chelle Ramos), or Stephony as fans have dubbed her online.Īs suspected, the woman being wooed by Eugene was a Commonwealth mole, placed in Eugene’s path to covertly obtain as much intel as possible about the survivors and their surrounding communities.
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